New Sudafed Laws.
As of 9/30/06 – a new sudafed law took into effect.
Every single product containing pseudoephedrine (PSE) has to be either in a locked cabinet or behind the counter. Also all sales of PSE containing products need to be logged in a book with a drivers license number, address, reason for taking it (wtf?) and signature. This is to “Curb the production of Methamphetamine”. The daily limit is 3.6 grams of sudafed and the monthly limit is 9 grams of sudafed.
This is so fucking outrageous and stupid it makes my head spin. -All- PSE containing products. That means infant cough/cold drops need to be locked up. Dimatapp needs to be locked up. Everything! Retarded! Is some crackhead going to cook 60 gallons of pediacare drops to make meth? Fuck no! I can see the stock bottles of 100 PSE 60mg, but childrens cold preps?
Who are they fooling anyways? Do they think that this is magically going to stop the production of meth? Dont they realize that the shit is being trucked in by the tons from Mexico? That its perfectly possible for a person to drive across the boarder, pick up like eleventybillion pounds of this shit, and just truck right on back in?
But no, just like guns and other things that are cool, the law abiding citizens have to pay for all the fuckups doing. I predict that this will have no effect on the production of meth. Im even willing to put money on it.
What gets me, is that they have to sign a log book, and their daily limit is 3.6 grams. What stops them from just going across the street to Walgreens and picking up another 3.6 grams; then to Longs, 3.6 grams; Rite Aid? Yup! 3.6 grams! Who cares if they sign the log book. The DEA agent is going to look at it and say “Yup, this dude we caught went to 10 different pharmacies in the same day and bought sudafed”. No fucking shit asshole! Will the pharmacies get in trouble? No, because we complied with the 3.6 grams/day law. So really, whats the point of this stupid shit anyways? Much like cocaine, C2 narcotics, and the “War on Drugs” bullshit, this whole program looks good on paper but will cost us more money and time than building a huge moat (with sharks) between us and Mexico.
People need to start using some common sense and stop selling sudafed to the fucking tweaker at 3am rather than punish the rest of us. I know what will curb the production of meth, public executions for the people who make it.
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They’ve been doing this in Oregon for at least a year. It’s fucking ridiculous. Makes me want to get a bunch of fake IDs just to buy a shit-load of sudafed and hoard it.
We have had this rule in the state I work in for about a year and a half. I had to tell a 17 year old mother that she couldn’t buy a decongestant for her baby because she wasn’t old enough. For a bottle with less than 1 24 hour Sudafed tablet. There has been no decrease in meth sales, just in the “mom and pop” labs. The even sadder thing to me is that there is an additve that they can add to the farmers nitrogen that makes in impossible to convert and they won’t make that manditory but they will allow the above situation to happen.
I don’t know about how it is where you live, but here in Meth capitol, USA AKA Missouri, it’s entered electronically now by driver’s license number and I’m not entirely sure the database is connected but I think if it isn’t it will be soon.
All this has done is make me want to try crystal meth so that I can clear my freakin sinuses.
I’m from Oregon where Pseudofed went schedule 4 Rx last summer; before that we had the hand-written log-book that did lead to catching some local meth makers, but it probably wasn’t worth the effort since the logbooks weren’t linked.
I thought the reason for the Rx/behind the counter rules were to decrease the meth supply (which clearly would be ineffective due to international production), but after talking to the head of the state Meth task-force, he made it clear that they were trying to stop the local meth production, not overall supply. The local toxic labs ruin houses/buildings and cost local governments tens-hundreds of thousands of dollars to clean up, seriously draining law-enforcement budgets.
December 2006 (a few months after it went Rx only) was the FIRST month in years when Oregon had NO home meth labs found. Yes these laws work at stopping local production, and yes for most people the PE substitute will work fine; yeah it’s a bitch to have to get an Rx for Pseudofed, but it’s probably worth the hassel/higher price to stop local methlabs.
With a horrible cold I went to the store- no three stores and there is not a single place in this god forsaken town that houses Penn State University that has a pharmacy open past 9pm. Fuck this. Welcome to the communist state of America.
Even the theory behind this act is flawed, as with many, many of our laws nowdays. The only thing this law does is to keep the upstanding, law-abiding people from getting the medicines they need. Meanwhile, the meth labs are still operating full scale, and meth has become the #1 drug in the USA. I am a teacher, but was made to feel like a 1st class felon on a drug seeking binge when I dutifully went to the pharmacist to purchase the sudafed I need to take with my allergy meds and was told that they wouldn’t sell it to me because I was over the limit. I had 2 boxes of sudafed. Yes, I buy it regularly, 2 boxes a month of 12 hour sudafed, but that is because my doctor told me that I would have no problem buying it since I’m healthy, and have all my teeth, therefore didn’t need a prescription. I walked away from the line that had formed behind me to witness the criminal trying to buy drugs legally over the counter, feeling like shit. Meanwhile, somewhere in this city someone is purchasing all the sudafed they need to make a new batch of meth because they’ve found a way to circumvent this ridicules law.
This whole thing makes me sick. I have a family of four. Both of my kids suffer from seasonal allergies and asthma. Sudafed is the only thing we have found that dries up the drainage. Today I go to the pharmacy and I patiently wait. A police officer walks by. Then another comes in 5 minutes after. I see the tech hand them my drivers license. 10 minutes go by and I am feeling nervous. What the hell. The stupid bitch didnt do her math right. Not only did they waste my time and the cities time I was humiliated in front of other customers. There aught to be some sort of law to protect our rights also.
Try working in a part of the country where in the spring our pollen count routinely hits 8000-10000 (yes, that many zeros) and the Claritin-D fools come out in droves and then bless me out (or better, talk trash about me to their friend, as if I can’t hear them). I always tell them if they don’t like the rule, they can contact their state/federal representatives since they’re the ones that came up with it (not sure if that’s true or not, but it usually shuts them up, probably since they have no idea who their rep is). Of course, that plan has since back-fired on me since this year our brilliant state legislature introduced a bill to make all PSE products RX only. Fortunately, they are too incompetent to pass anything, so this bill died. Better yet are the ones who when you explain to them that this is to curb meth production, ask, Well how do you make meth from sudafed?
i went to jail this week. i still do not know why. i’ve been so upset. i was asleep when they beat on my door there was about 20 cops and a wich with a camera.they drug me out like an animal. i do not do meth they found nothing in my home. i spent all day behind bars for buying sadafed. i would laugh but it was not funny. my husband was shot and killed a few yers back the guy who shot him walked but i go to jail for sudafed. i have severe allergeis and it helped me . now im lalbled a crack addict in my town. im under a 1500.00 bond trial date june 16th 2009 . im so upset im considering never getting out of bed a again.what is wrong with this picture? im 48 and never been arrested before.
Can’t do the time? Don’t do the crime… Maybe next time you will research the laws better before you go breaking them. Your time in jail will give you plenty of time to do just that. No pity for you, I hope the handcuffs hurt….criminal
I have a problem with this law, because it seems that if the monthly limit is 9.0 Grams, and the Daily Limit 3.6 grams
then the computer should not be screwing things up so bad
when you go to purchase it.
I purchased 20 pills which is 2400 MG or 2.4 Grams a few weeks ago
then I went again to try and purchase just yesterday
and was not allowed, not sure how they are calculating the monthly limit
if it is carried over, or if you are getting screwed over because
other members of the same family or same household are buying it.
makes no sense to me. and can’t find info on changes in governments policy as relating to local pharmacies.
I would go to Marcs and buy it since they have it in a log book,
but I would rather buy it at CVS, where they have a generic brand
that costs alot less, and marcs only carries products with 10 pills
I like the 20 count box of the 12 hour pseudoephedrine the CVS Brand
but can’t figure out how possibly I was over the limit when I only got it once this month.
and not sure how the monthly limit is calculated.
I seem to have chronic sinus problems and the pseudo is the only thing that truly works.
I am a legitimate user of Sudafed and figured I’d weigh in on this thread. It has become a bit more difficult to obtain, and this seems reasonable enough if it keeps kids from wrecking themselves. I am concerned that I might inadvertently go over the limit if I lose the drug (e.g. while traveling) and need to purchase more.
Better be aware of how much you have bought… Inadvertent or not, you will still go to jail.
I CAN SEE WHY PEOPLE ARE SO UP SET, THE CRIMINALS RUIN IT FOR THE HONEST PERSON. THE NEW LAW NOW SENDS YOUR LICENSE INFORMATION TO A DATA BASE THAT CAN BE REVIEWED BY LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND ARREST HAVE BEEN MADE. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE ARREST THAT HAS BEEN MADE ALSO PRODUCED EVIDENCE OF A METH LAB. I KNOW IT SUCKS BUT IF IT PREVENTS YOUR KID FROM LEARNING HOW TO MAKE IT OR USE IT THEN THE LAW HAS DONE THERE JOB
NAZI america, punish the innocent for the guilty’s crimes.
Take from the poor and give to the rich. I don’t take medicine because I don’t trust what the government puts in it.
Medicine isn’t worth ANARCHY america.
Tell that to the rich people who run america, the banks and the major coporations.