Welfare + Clomid = WTF?
I got this comment from Sandi, and could not believe it:
This patient takes the cake.
I normally do a fair amount of grumbling over how much stuff is paid for by Medicaid, but this time I had to be proud of what was not covered…
A lady came in with a prescription for Clomid. I did not ever in a million years expect she would be on Medicaid, so I had to look twice and still ask her if she had a new insurance card. Nope, she really is on Medicaid. Then she was just downright surprised that Medicaid would not pay to get her pregnant! Yeah, sure, why don’t you bring a few more into the world…on us. Not.
For those at home: Clomid = Makes women have babies. Just don’t stand downwind of a guy, you might become his baby-momma.
Sandi, you showed restraint unknown to those of us in retail. I personally would of called up the doctors office and asked them why they were writing a fertility drug to a patient that obviously could not take care of her self, but for some reason thought that bringing a child into the world would magically make her problems go away. What kind of dipshit retarded doctor would write for this? Oh, one of those “Everyone has a right to a family, blah blah blah”. Yeah, you pay for that fucking kid so we don’t have to.
I would of just told her it wasn’t covered, and if she asked if I could call the doctor to get it changed or get a prior auth, I would just say “If you cant afford this medication, how can you afford a child?”. Tough questions, tough love, only here on the angrypharmacist.
What i’m most surprised from this story, is that there really is an infertile welfare female out there. I thought that the cure all for infertility was to just go on welfare. In no time you’ll have one on each tit and another in the oven.
Yes, i’m going to hell. Straight to hell.
Our store had a guy argue with us one night because his state aid insurance wouldn’t cover his Viagra. It was all I could do to not tell him simply “the state doesn’t want you breeding” and hang up on him.
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Several years ago there was a woman in Dallas who had multiples. Yup, you guessed it, they were a product of fertility drugs and were birthed at the county hospital. He was a waiter, she had to stop working at some point during the pregnancy. They were, you got it, on medicaid. Needless to say, I was enraged. I don’t have any yard monsters so why should I support your “right” to have *multiple* kids you can’t afford!
Also, some religions make it a moral imperative to reproduce I have to believe that is why some idiots do it.
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OK, so this has to be the greatest website for us. I howl when reading some of these entries. My god, at least I know I am not going to hell by myself but I will have some company when I arrive!! Sometimes I feel guilty at how I feel and wonder if other professionals feel this way too or is it just our profession??? I have been doing this for 28 years now and the older I get the angrier I get, it seeems
Enough said about that> ok, so I have the greatest job, right working 8-4:30 M-F no nights, no wknds , no holidays……sure, NOT………….oh yeah, that part is great but I
fill rx’s for an infectious disease office………almost EVERYONE has mcaid/care, very few private insurance. So, these guys have all been taking Viagra, Cialis, Levitra and our wonderful gov’t has been paying for them to F___
around and spread more diseases in an already disease ridden overly promiscuous population….
So in rings the new year and whoops, no more govt
subsidized pills so for the last 20 days I have been hearing the same sob story over and over again. WHat do you mean I can’t get my Viagra anymore???? What part of NO don’t you understand
MF______R. Now these guys got thier meds like clockwork every month and all of a sudden they have to pay for it………………guess what,all of a sudden they are doing without……hmmmmmm, I’ll take it if it’s free but no way do I HAVE to have it ,if I have to pay for it.
As I listen to my tech tell them their insurance will not pay, I stand in the corner and snicker and say hahahahaha………I am going to hell!!See you there!!!
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My personal philosophy: You go on Medicaid, you get an IUD. Period. You can’t support yourself, you can’t support a child. If you get a job and your own insurance, the IUD comes out. You lose said job, back in it goes. I have no tolerance for people who think they have a right to have children. If you can take care of them, cool, go ahead and procreate. If not, forget it.
Yup, straight to hell
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Ever heard of endometriosis? No course not, youre not a doctor lol.
If a girl had endo, which can be disabiling, I could see her point in trying. 1. sooner the better 2. pregnancy often kicks endos ass. Becoming pregnant used to be the main offerings for treatment but women who have been horribly disabled by endo changed that.
Anyways, mighty pharmacists dont know it all, which is why we have doctors.
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i am with you sista. theese people are SO high and mighty it makes me sick.
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It’s too bad you’re mother did not decide to self abort. The world would be a better, happier place today.
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Yah, I can totally relate to your frustration.
I come from Singapore where the older generation civil servants on pension schemes have their healthcare expenditure 100% paid for by the government, with tax payers’ money of course.
Irritates me to no end when patients come and collect tons of ketoprofen patch and not pay a single cent for it. What’s worse is some of them will go to different consultants asking for half a year’s supply from each of them, and then sell their loot to the public for quick cash.
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What’s equally irritating is when you see people on medicaid drive off in a BMW after refusing to pay their copayments because “they can’t afford it.”
Fuck that, and fuck you. I fucking hate Massachusetts sometimes, knowing that my fucking taxes are paying for their fucking bullshit. Seriously, what the fuck.
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So, people on low income shouldn’t be allowed to breed ?
Interesting viewpoint.
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There are many differences between pharmacists and physicians: your post and your comments highlight the big ones.
Physicians work as hard as they can to not judge our patients based on race, income, gender, sexual orientation or sexual preferences. We learn NOT to make rash assumptions. We know that the superficial appearance doesn’t always tell the whole story.
You’ve now gone and made pharmacists look like every other whiny, catty, self-rightous, ignorant retail clerk. Congratulations. The more that the general public reads work like this, the faster you’ll lose the title of “Most Trusted Profession”. I’d never set foot in your pharmacy knowing that you’re review prescription histories and make fun of patients this way.
Shame on you.
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How about if someone on Medicaid has endometriosis, they do a surrogacy instead of having their own that cannot be taken care of. Provides nice, childless people with a child they can care for, and the girl gets paid (it’ll pass for a 9 month job…)
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First of all not all people who are on medicaid are poor. did you ever think that maybe their jobs don’t provide health insurance? My husband works and goes to college full time. He has money. plenty of it. I am on medicaid. And guess what? I am getting clomid. I don’t know what state your from but some states cover the presciption. Let me ask you this how much does it cost cash?And why does it bother you? You get your money back at the end of year, taxes.”Baby’s momma” sounded kind of racist.My husband is white. I am wondering how did someone like you become so cold hearted. how did you get a job as a pharmacist? I guess pharmacist are on the bottom of the food chain when it comes to the doctors point of view. So maybe that is why you are so mad.
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Heaven knows what I am doing reading your post and commeting after 2 years for, needless to say I was intrigued at hearing about Medicaid covering fertility drugs.
However, I am absolutely appalled at what you have written and this urged me to correct you and offer some insight.
I am not from the US (which you would probably love to know and jeer at), I moved here in 2007 as a legal immigrant after spending thousands on visas and getting my green card etc.
I moved here because I fell in love with someone I met from the US, someone who is on Medicaid and has a disability (Spina Bifida).
I work hard here, and volunteer plenty of time for our local community. However my job does not pay out medical insurance and is a non-profit organization – this means I pay out of my own pocket every time I see a doctor.
I pay large amounts of money to the government every month for taxes, and some of that tax money is for health care.
My husband also paid out of his pocket (well his parents pockets as he was growing up) for any of his medical assistance until just recently.
Therefore I don’t think it is much to ask in our situation that we get back a little of that money every now and again which we have without a fuss spared to the government every month, and in cases like ours where I am fertile yet he has some issues related to his disability that makes it hard for us to conceieve that perhaps we get some fertility treatment covered.
It takes very little to no money for any ‘normal’ couple to have a baby; but for couples like my husband and I it takes a thousand or so which when you have other bills to pay every month and blooming high tax which comes off of your checks, sparing a thousand or more is incredibly difficult (all for that one joy that so many others take for granted!)
Therefore stop judging people, stop being a dick and I pray you never find difficulty in your life where maybe you’ll need some good caring citizens of this country or your community to help you out financially or otherwise!
Also to finish Medicaid does not mean ‘losers’ who don’t work their asses off, support the community and try and do better.
My husband as soon as he can will be coming off of Medicaid, but until then we certainly give back a good deal of what he takes from my checks alone!
Be proud to be American, you built this Country on wanting to live better lives, working together, creating freedom and acceptance for all without prejudice – how can you call yourself an American if you hate your government and the people who live here so much?
Thats all I will say, sorry that you don’t understand….
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If you work for a non-profit without health ins coverage I seriously doubt you pay ANY income taxes! Don’t believe me….ask your accountant.
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I just wanted to say that I have endometriosis and polycystic ovarian syndrome. Let me tell you it hurts. I am currently a full time psych student who is having trouble getting pregnant. I was told that if I didn’t get pregnant now I would never have kids. Even a few months wait can destroy my chances because of surgery after surgery to clear out the accumulating tissue so that I can get pregnant causes scar tissue which can lead to infertility in itself. They want to start me on Clomid. I have 2 semesters left of school. Being in school full time doesn’t really allow me to work. I tried it. My grades went down and now I am back to a 4.0 student. So needless to say…I am on medicaid until I graduate and can obtain insurance when I start working in this field. So one of you basically said that I should have an IUD because I lost my mom, and am working to better myself, and happened to temporarily need medicaid. Another of you basically said I am less than human and don’t deserve help. Thats crap! There are some people that abuse the system, but not all. There are some people who sit on welfare and can help themselves, but not all. So stereotyping such as welfare mothers and baby’s mommas are seriosly messed up. You are not doctors. None of you. Obviously those of you are saying whos worthy of medical treatment and children and such became pharmacists because either you weren’t smart enough to become doctors, or just made a wise choice in not being in a helping profession because you would basically say a young girl that is on medicaid is not worthy of your help and you let her die because her insurance won’t pay you enough, but you help a bitter old lady whos life is almost over because she can pay you faster and more. YOU ARE NOT THE LAW PEOPLE! Oh and the person that said all women on welfare should have an IUD- the only way I agree with that has absolutely nothing to do with medicaid, but rather if they are an Andrea Yates figure who has harmed, is in danger of harming, or such, their children. Then IUD time it is, but other than that, yeah your comment does send you straight to hell, as some of you post. Obviously if you didn’t know what you all are doing is wrong, why post it like that.
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Doctor X,
Please do not blanket all community pharmacists with your statement. I, and my colleagues, work very hard to maintain a high level of care for our patients (yes, at a Walgreens).
In addition, I have heard physicians make statements much worse than the Angry Pharmacist. No health care profession is beyond reproach when it comes to these types of rants.
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I used to have medicade… not because I was a poor, cheap, mother trying to get things for free. My husband and I relocated and upon arriving to our new state, I became very ill. The insurance at his new job hadn’t kicked in yet and I needed immediate medical attention and was put on disability.
Maybe you judge people too quickly. Maybe you should have a fucking heart and show some empathy. You don’t know everyone’s life story so stop acting as if you do. And find a new profession… you shouldn’t be in the medical field where compassion should be a requirement. You’re a judgemental asshole.
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I agree with some of the comments here. I am 42 and 6 years ago I was involved in a car accident that left me in severe, constant and disabling pain. The small lawsuit I got is running out and I pay almost a grand a month for my medications. I quit taking a couple of them because I cant afford them. My oramorph is over $350 a month and I cant find help for that medication. I have been fighting disability for 4 years now (they say I am still young). I am trying to raise 3 children and once the money runs out I will have to move out of state to live with my sister and leave my children with my ex. I do feel like dying now. I loved working, I had 2 wonderful jobs before this accident. So the people that are on disability and welfare when they can get up in the morning and go to work just kill me. I cant get up let alone shower & dressed until I have had at least 2 morphine pills in me. I hope disability approves me soon (so I do not die before that happens), The doctors want to do a spinal cord stimulator to see if that eases my pain. I will try anything to ease my pain so that I can get back out there and support myself. I wish there was a way I could help myself now and get myself better. But deadbeats should be screened and taken off welfare and disability if its proven they can work when people like myself are suffering so severely that suicide looks like the only option……
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To those people that said they were going to hell for the comments they made–I say don’t sweat it!! You said nothing wrong!!
JMT: Low income people were not the topic of the blog–the specific issue was people on medicaid–there is a difference!
To Dorene: If not all people on medicaid are poor and you have money– “plenty of it”–then why the FUCK are you on medicaid!! The cash cost for Clomid is about $80 brand and $30 gen in my state–so why, if your are soo well funded am I–Joe Q. Taxpayer–paying for you to get knocked up!! and then I will also be paying for your prenatal and post-natal care, child care–provided that you every get a Fucking job– well child check ups, sick visits and any other reason that your child may need to be seen. For your information, I DO NOT get even a 1/4 of my taxes paid out in the form of a return and “Baby’s Momma” is not a racist comment, it is a comment about crazy ass bitches irrespective of race.
To Allie: Your comments aggitate me because I put myself through college–PharmD, 21 hours of graduate level courses per semester–I worked 2 jobs and maintained a 4.0–Thank you very much!! Enough with the whiney cry baby bullshit–other people have lost parents and loved ones and still work their asses off in order to not be on state assistance.
I have a question for you…Is the man who is attempting to impregnate you employed, or is it just too hard for him to work and sex you up?–better get on medicaid!
Apparently the actual reason for the blog has escaped you–the point was that if you cannot afford to pay for yourself, you should not bring another life into this world for which other people have to pay! PS I was recruited to various medical schools upon completion of pharmacy school. Have you ever entertained the thought that maybe we don’t want to be physicians–i.e. not on call, no residency, etc. etc. etc. The pharmacy in which I practice is in a very influential area–most of my patients are MDs, attorneys, nurses, CEOs of hospitals, etc… and the MDs ask me to dose medications for them!!–because they dont have their PDA with them to look it up!
This issue has nothing to do with a patient being able to pay us “enough”–it deals with independence and taking responsibility for -oh my-
YOUR FUCKING SELF!!
By the way this rant was brought to you by not only me, but also via techs at my store–whom do not make a ton of money and do not have healthcare and are all college students and yet–miraculously feel the same way!!
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As a nurse, I applaud you JAX for bringing these issues to light. It really pisses me off that there are people out there that do not think about what is required before getting pregnant. A baby deserves dedicated parents with stable finances and health insurance. I worked in high risk obstetrics for almost 4 years, I saw the same women year and year. Why not have babies when taxpayers like us will support them? I have noticed that the poor usually seem to be able to mass procreate without issue. If there is an instance where medical intervention is needed, WE should not be help financially responsible.
I agree with you regarding school. I was married, had two children, worked, and went to college at the same time while maintaining a 4.0. Did I mention that my Dad died of brain cancer while I was doing all of that without the assistance of the taxpayers hard earned money?
Give me a break! Keep up the faith, God knows we need it!
Kimberland
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I have been completely shocked by some of these comments. HELLO YOU DON�T KNOW WHAT YOR TALKING ABOUT–people in general are not that informed about drugs. They go to the Doctor, tell them their symptoms and the Doctor prescribes what ever medicine is for those symptoms and sometimes they are very general symptoms. Most of the time people don�t ask for these drugs but they assumed they need them because their doctor prescribed them. People are from all walks of life. The working class is literally worked to death. Most Pharmacists don�t understand this because they have never worked hard labor. A pharmacist stands at a computer, checks drugs and Okays what the pharmacy tech has already done. I am a pre-Pharmacy Student on MEDICAID. I have a 10 year old son and I work very hard to be were I am today. However, if I did not have the governments help I would not be where I am. What is even more amazing is your focus on TAXES. If you really understood how little of your taxes go toward these programs you would SHUT UP. Why don�t you scream about where you taxes actually go. That is, to pay for more profit for oil companies -that�s what the war is all about. The ignorance that I see in these postings is unbelievable. I know it is easy to look at poor people as lazy and not worthy but what you don�t get is that society has made people this poor and they are only looking for relief. We are now at zero population�s growth in the United States. That why we need immigrants because as technology increases the working class is decreasing. Additionally, Pharmaceutical companies are brain washing people into believing their sick. Have you ever laid awake at night and been scared that you where dieing–trust me it is awful. WAKE UP PEOPLE. Maybe all the pharmacist should go talk to the Pharmaceutical companies OH but wait, this is the capitalist class, they have money, so they must be better�OH MY GOD! Think about it, our government doesn�t care for people�s well being. Have you every wondered why they cover these drugs? HMMMMMMMM I bet they have an ulterior motive don�t you!!!
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CC,
If you are a REALLY a Pre-pharm student then you need to seriously reconsider your career. Have you ever worked in a pharmacy?
“A pharmacist stands at a computer, checks drugs and Okays what the pharmacy tech has already done.”
Those of us who actually DO have pharmacy experience want to slap you at this moment. That comment is as bad as “Why does it take 10 minutes to count some pills and slap a label on a bottle?
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Well I see several cleverly disguised Medicaid scumbags logged in to post comments to make themselves feel better. The bums lie to themselves and those around them without end to justify their laziness. Posing as a Dr was really clever, gosh who would ever see through that. Oh and by the way Doc, there are plenty of stupid Docs out there being taken for a ride and taking the taxpayer for a ride too!
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First, thank you Angry Pharmacist! Great blog, great rants, and great insight for me into the world of retail pharmacy.
Next, if you can’t afford your medications and are going to school, you need to drop out, get a damned job, and pay for the meds you need.
I spent several years of my life working to repay my family’s medical debt (none of it my own) out of a sense of duty and honor. Sure, they could have written off the debt, and it never would have affected me financially….. But have some friggin dignity and honor and pay for what you need.
There’s a reason they call it “survival of the fittest”. If you can’t take care of yourself, I don’t want to take care of you either.
Sure, I’m an a$$hole for not having compassion for you, but you have MANY opportunities to take care of yourself by working hard and earning money. If it takes two jobs, and all you have time to do is work and sleep, then do it.
Nobody in this country “owes” you any help so that you have “free” time to do fun things, or to pay for you to have a child when you can’t afford to take care of yourself.
Got endo and might not be able to have kids later? Too bad!
Since when does “life liberty and the pursuit of happiness” involve me paying for your happiness?????????!!
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Are you stupid? Welfare and Medicaid are NOT the same. We’re not bums. WQe work. Medicaid is to help those who cant afford the high costs of insurance. So you’re saying someione who is dissabled and on ssi or welfare or medicaid is a bum?? Get your facts straight dummy. And you shouldnt be a pharmacist.
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I agree with the latter, but there are some confusing moments, and when asked who care about who is a fact that survival of the fittest is true
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I’ve seen a patient complain to the pharmacist rather loudly that massachusettes medicaid should cover fertility treatments that the cash price was about $2000 a month for and already had 3 kids of hers, 2 running around and a baby in her arms and she’s claiming that she can’t afford the copays on the kids meds but has a basket full of candy and junk food. Of course its not right either that the fertility treatments aren’t being covered but her husbands viagra is.
For the people bitching about the costs of health care insurance now a days, blame all the ambulance chasing lawyers for part of the costs. They sue just about everyone for huge sums for no good reasons almost all the time. Sure there will be some valid law suits but these 40 million dollar judgments for something the doctor said not to do but you did it anyways and now are filing lawsuits for doesn’t help the costs of healthcare. Some how i don’t buy 20mil for pain and suffering and 20 mill for the scum sucking attorney cough*John*cough*Edwards*cough
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Many of you are just ignorant asshole. I have two jobs and go to school full time, my husband is currently in the nursing program and only has time on the weekends to work. Unfortunately we live in a area that only offers jobs at minimum wage. With us both working it still putes us bellow the poverty line. I have polycystic ovarian syndrome, and every month my chances of having a child decreases. So i guess what your saying is I should never have the chance to have a child, becuase you feel im taking your money to have a child. Im sorry I forgot your a ignorant asshole, who thinks only of yourself. Incase you forgot I also pay taxes, so in a way I look at it as im geting my money back. I know how frustrating it can be to get your check and see half of your money gone to taxes, It makes you mad, and in anger comes ignorance. Not all people are trashy, and live of the system. You know if I could get pregnant with no help we would be able to bring a child into the world with no finacial help. But thats not how it is I have a disease, yes infertility is a disease. It costs a lot, and we need help with the bill at this time in our life because im racing against the clock. Dont start thinking of dum thoughts like how drugs only cost this much and so on and so on, becuase you have no clue until your in our situation. Your not their at the Dr. visit all you see is how much we pay for drugs, but their is alot more to it than just drugs.
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I think you should all be ashamed of yourselfs for the comments you’ve made!!! just because someone has Medicaid doesn’t mean that there poor or that they couldn’t support children, it simply means they need a little extra help, our government is what makes things so hard anyway , i’ve payed taxes all my life so why not get some of it back it was mine to begin with. and truthfully these women that are trying to conceive would probably be way better parents that any of you could ever be. is that what you teach your kids to be judgemental, and stuck up because your in a better situation, really from now on think before you speak ask god for forgiveness for wanting to prevent life!! people like ya’ll is what makes this country the messed up place it is now, NO MORALS OR FAITH IN GOD.
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Hi there i am here to explane the womans point of veiw . I am on welfare / disablity / and medical and i have a 4 yearold son . Because i was born with a disablity dose that mean i should not have the right to ever have and love my own child ???( i have non verbal learing disablity wich affects my abliy to hold a job not my fault) ignorance happenes when you do not understand something i also would like clomid but i do understand that i would be paying out of pocket . If you wait untill you have enough money to have a child you never will ave one . yes you fell society pays for our children what more of a wonderful cause could you give too ??? by the way it dosent come from tax payers I hope atleast one person is a little more open hearted and understanding because of my story children are a gift it should never be about money cause abortion cost tax payers much more !!!!!!!!!
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Here piggy piggy piggy piggies. Come on you little welfare/medicaid bums, suckle up to Uncle Sams titties for your free food, free medical care, free housing, free babies. Life is free come get yours that you haven’t earned or deserve. Poooooor lazy piggies!
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PharmacyIntern2010 mentioned that a patient in Massachusetts complained that that state should cover fertility treatments.
In the 1990s there was a huge stink because that state did just that. Women on welfare who already had at least one child that we the taxpayers got to pay for received fertility drugs at Medicaid expense–the kind of drugs that made women prone to have a litter instead of one child at a time.
If you can’t feed ‘em, don’t breed ‘em. Responsible people throughout history lived by that maxim. Those on welfare (which includes Medicaid) today who have the entitlement mentality that they should be able to have more and more children at everyone else’s expense need to wake up and smell the coffee.
We have a population crisis brewing around the world anyway, so subsidizing irresponsible trash’s procreation is ridiculous. Their kids are more likely to end up on public assistance (welfare or “disability”) or in prison, so it’s not as if it benefits society to pay for them. The poor seem to have more children with such phony-ass afflictions as ADHD, “awwtism” spectrum disorders, etc., that will render them never able to be productive members of society.
In light of the global population issue, I would ban all fertility treatment. The infertile should instead be persuaded to accept their status and instead should be encouraged to adopt an existing child. Now, THAT I could support the use of tax money for.
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My name is Holly Lem and i would like to show you my personal experience with Clomid.
I am 28 years old. I got preg first time on my own & miscarried. after a while of trying, my dr put me on clomid. after the first round i got pregnant & miscarried. i decided not to try or think about it at all probably for a 9 months… right around the time baby would be due & then started trying again. after a few months got back on clomid. after 5 months and no pregnancy i’m giving it a rest again. it’s to much disappointment. i’m going to give it a try again soon, in the mean time we’re keeping our fingers crossed for the old fashioned way to work.
I have experienced some of these side effects-
HOT FLASHES, moody, cry easily, weight gain, headaches etc!!
I hope this information will be useful to others,
Holly Lem
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I think this rant is that of a person who does not belong in the industry of providing care of other individuals. There are some people out there that are having a hard time in life and have to turn to state assistance for the time being. That doesn’t necesarilly declare them unable to pay for themselves, but people need an up in life sometimes. Not everyone had parents that saved a college fund for them to recieve their pharmacy degree. I’m so glad your ass is ALREADY paying for me – I might just get pregnant so your degree can continue paying for me and my family. You and your decedents should rot in hell, not just you.
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I have medicaid, not because I don’t work because I do. My husband works his butt off. We are trying to have a baby, but his work charges way too much for insurance. If you want to dog people out thinking that everyone on Medicaid is poor, stupid, lazy. Then you really need to go back to school because you are definitely not as smart as you think you are. Either that or you are heartless. Think before you show what a jerk you really are!
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Some professionals make me wonder what kind of idiots can actually make it in the professional american world. I receive medicaid benefits. I am a college graduate with a child and a husband. I am obviously not dumb, I work full time 40+ hours per week and I also am pursuing another degree and am currently a full time student. I too am trying to conceive another child. But if the world were ran by ignorant jerks like you I would not be able to. I pay for my medicaid. I pay co-pays when I go to the doctor. I pay monthly for my medicaid. My taxes pay for my medicaid and for others. If it werent for medicaid you may not have the financial freedom to even state your opinion.
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I think you are forgetting the fact that it is the insurance companies that are making it this way. Half of all Americans are not insured. If a woman becomes pregnant, then the insurance companies will not accept you. The only way to get insurance is through Medicaid, which only covers the pregnancy and the first year of the baby’s life. This ensures that all women get prenatal care which helps ensure healthy babies so that those babies won’t need more government assistance.
If the insurance company would accept you AFTER you are already pregnant, many women would go ahead and pay insurance for those ninth months plus maybe even continue to pay after the baby is born. This would be a great way for insurance companies to get clients among that 50% that are not insured.
Also – shame on the person who is making fun of autism – you obviously do not know the pain of a parent with children with a disorder. You are obviously a stupid and ignorant bigot.
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Just wondering if those government backed grants and student loans you took out count as welfare… since they are paid for by my taxes and all. If someone needs medicaid to get through school, by all means, they should have it. How is that different than them having grants? At least they will become productive members of society. I’d rather have my country made up of educated people who needed assistance to get through school than uneducated people who dropped out to “do it on their own.” You were not criticized for taking governmental assistance to get through your education, don’t criticize others for doing the same.
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I stumbled on this site a few minutes ago, and I am in awe at what I am reading. I am a currently a fulltime student, and have two semesters left to finish my teaching degree. I have had two children both with the help of pregnant womans medicaid, which covered only hospital costs, and pregnancy related meds. My husband’s insurance only offers a family plan and not a spouse only insurance plan, costing over 150 dollars a week just for health. We own our home, two vehicles, and 22 acres of land, but we still are under the income guidelines and recieve help with our children’s medical expenses. Example: My youngest son was born completely healthy, and at six weeks old stopped breathing in the middle of the night, scared us to death. We rushed him to children’s hospital, where they did emergency surgery. Because of this surgery he now has thickened liquids in all bottles, and over the winter had to have special injections keeping his lungs healthy which costs over 9000, a month for six months. If it were not for medicaid, we would have lost our home, and everything. People like you make me sad, because if you were ever in a time of need you would think it better to add to our debt crisis by charging everything on a credit card or a bank loan, and then when you couldn’t afford it bankruptcy would be your only option. At least with medicaid there are price breaks doctors, hospitals and pharmacies use to help the gov. like off brand meds instead of namebrand, and my children get there shots at the health center instead of the doc’s office. I wrote this just to inform the ANGRY PHAR…. that everyone on medicade is not milking the gov’t and to genralize that is to be ignorant. Wake up and have some respect, I can’t believe the way you cuss and use fowl language you actually made it through your rigorous schooling. Fowl language is a huge indicator of a small vocabulary and a lax eduacational background. I will be in prayer that this website cleans up its act and it’s language. Word of advice you are really hurting Walgreen’s business by mentioning that an individual with your lack of charactor was hired at such establishment. Sorry for your unitelligence.
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Okay – I am not saying that ALL people on Wellfare are bad or that I dislike them or think they should not have kids. I don’t agree with that at all for those of you like Loni or other random posts above that I’ve read.
BUT….get this. My sister is 23 years old. And has never worked a day in her life. Wait – I take that back. She did work at Burger King for 3 weeks and quit because she “didn’t like her boss.” I then got her a job at my place of employment. She was there maybe one and a half weeks until she just didn’t show up for 2 days – no call, no explaination even to me. That’s it. 5 weeks of her entire 23 years have spent working. She has never attemtped to get a college education or better herself. Ever. No thought about it.
Now, I understand how much college costs. I come from the EXACT same family she did nad my parents treated us very fair, but somehow I was able to obtain my BS and MS degree with NO assistance from my parents and ONLY loans (no grants, scholarships, etc) that I’m currently paying back. It can happen. I don’t care who you are, I am proof that poor people can go to school and get an education.
SO she got pregnant when she was 18 (I praise her for making it THAT long). She says it was an accident. “Didn’t know she could get pregnant ’cause she never had periods.” DUH – great another one added to our wonderful society. So, of course her baby’s gotta have a daddy, so she marries the man who impregntated her … at 18. Now granted they are still together. That’s awesome. I’m glad they have been able to make it 4 or whatever years. Cool. But again, NO ONE WORKS HERE!!! The husband, also 23, has RARELY held jobs. He actually just got his CENA certification (God just let me die if I were to EVER be under his care). He was at work for about a week before he “decided to switch jobs for something better.” Oh and guess where he found his new job? The nursing home in which my Dad (who I deal with being guardian/conservator of) resides. Scare me to death!!! No worries there, because he files for DISABILITY just a few days after working there! ARE YOU F’ING KIDDING ME!??? He claims he has back problems. WTF!? Oh and to clear a few things up…my sister, who has never worked has NO health problems except for her laziness and related OBESITY – no diagnosed health problems (until PCOS – I’ll get there). (The other thing funny is that when the husband got his CENA they kept referring to him as a RN. LOL If ANYONE knew him they’d know that this man could never be a nurse.)
SO here we are today. My sister, still not working. Her husband, on disability??? Now they’re trying to have a SECOND child. WHERE IS THE MONEY??? I’ve been talking to her a bit – through Facebook since they can’t keep a phone connected. She says that she has been working regularly with an ob/gyn and she has been on Metformin for about 2 months to help regulate her cycles since she was dx with PCOS (likely because she’s obese and doesn’t move her body and eats shit all day). NOW she’s going to start CLOMID!? Once again, ARE YOU F’ING KIDDING ME? Who is paying for this??? I’m about losing my mind right here because my husband and I are struggling to have our first baby as well. I have been dx with PCOS too (that’s how I know about the meds and what the do, prices, etc). I am a heathy weight – I am a dietitian (not saying all RD’s are skinny). My husband is a police officer and I work, as I mentioned as an RD. We’re both 26, have completed schooling (myself extended schooling), have minimal bills, have purchased a home, have 2 working vehicles, are in the process of remodeling, etc….we just want a baby and I feel that WE are ready to care for and pay for one – but can’t seem to make it happen.
Another side note – last time we were at my sisters mobile home she had at least 2 BIG flat screen TV’s, 2 desktops and 2 laptops, nearly all the game systesm you can have along with more games than they literally have room for. They have birds, aligators, other reptiles and such, a dog, tons of fish and numerous other creatures which are not cared for. Everytime I’ve ever been there the guys are playing video games. My neice is walking around nakid and filthy and my sister is ALWAYS in pajamas (since she’s too big to fit into anything else).
Now, maybe Im just ranting here, but I’m SURE I can find some others out there who think this situation is as F’ed up as I do!!! Sorry, just REALLY needed to get this off my chest.
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WTF is wrong with you fakeass wish you could be a doctor pharmacist? Wow… You should really change jobs if it gets you this angry. You all sound like idiots.. Your a pharmacist not a doctor do your job and fill the prescriptions, stop complaining and bitching like little girls.. Wahhhhhh my taxes are paying for you to get pregnant waaaaaaaah… Whiny little bitches is what you are… Being a pharmacist is the LAZIEST job you can have you guys do nothing… That explains why you guys have so much time and energy to sit down and whine about “poor people” on medicaid trying to conceive… Get a real job… If I’m not mistaken don’t pharmacist have the highest suicide rate after dentist? I see why….. Get another job or go hang yourselves… The world would be a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better place without you soul sucking parasites.. By the way I agree with those that says they’ve worked and they’ve pay taxes it’s only fair they get their money back…. Hell I plan to and I pray it’s from your tax dollars I will gladly take it… LMAO !!!!!!! Idiots….
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@Amanda I think it’s pathetic and sad that instead of telling your fat lazy sister your concerns you come on here and talk shit behind her back.. Although I agree her situation is fuck’d up and she’s sound like a true trailer park white trash.. If you have concerns for your niece call DCF .. But to me it just sounds like your jealous that she did what you’re not able to do….conceive…. all I hear from you is it’s so not fair I should be the one that’s pregnant because I’m prepared for it… Bullshit… Maybe god didn’t bless you with one because you’re a stuck up backstabbing unworthy bitch and he’s not going to reward you for your fuck’d up views.. Your sister should have more kids on yours and the idiot who started this blogs dime…. Get a life loser…
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I just wanted to say your article is infuriating, assumptive, and ignorant. I am a female with pcos (polycystic ovary syndrome) as well as endometriosis and my doctor has informed me if I am not pregnant by 24 or 25 (I am 22 now) I will probably never have a baby. I work a full time job and go to school full time, and my husband works full time, and we only bring it $3,000 a month combined. Because of my preexisting conditions, I cannot get health insurance from ANY company I have contacted not cobra, not health plan one, not anthem, none of them. I did get a quote for $650 a month for 50% coverage, that is INSANE. My work and my husbands work do not offer insurance. So, if I want a child, that’s right I have to have government insurance. So I was put on Medicaid, and now I pay out of pocket for the provera and clomid. So while yes it is ignorant to ever think medicaid would cover fertility drugs, you have NO RIGHT to judge those of us on medicaid trying to have a child. I am not on any other government assistance other than medical. I HAVE to be, otherwise I can’t even afford prenatal care! So you can assume what you wish, but there are exceptions to everything, and I one of them. I also happen to already have my bachelors in early childhood education and child psychology and would you believe I was offered $12 an hour for 4 years college? So I started my own business out of my home providing childcare to 6 children between the ages of 6 weeks and 5 years, and I make $2,000 a month doing that. I work 6am to 6pm in my home, then start school at 7pm and continue until midnight or one. I do this so that when I have a child I can keep them at home with me. I had $12,000 in savings and would you believe it is ALL gone because before I got Medicaid (2 months ago) I was hospitalized for a severe kidney infection and sepsis and I had to pay every bit of it out of pocket. So just keep in mind you also insulted the hard workers like me!
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Dear upset. im sorry u feel the way u do and its sad im a very hard working mom and so is my hubby Ive been a nurse for almost 20 years and my hunny and i would love to have another child he has always paid his child support but unlike me i have never receiced any from my ex!! yes i am 44 this year and he is 39 but we r both healhty and would love another child one to complete our family so to say and yes we have medicaid!!! We do pay a spend down aS WELL and we have supported all of our kids i myslef have had five but back in 07 i gave birth to a still born son we were devastated needless to say!! WE didnt know so to say that we wanted another in fact we tried not to get preggers how sad for us now we try and try and recently we r resorting to or planning to use clomid i believe in our case since we do pay for our medicaid and exception should be made to help cover some of the cost we are not by far lazy and shame on u for not thinking of someone like me and my age is more then likely the cause of us not being able to conceive we are heart broken!! so before u judge stop and thin of me and my hubby who do work hard everyday and all we ask for is alittle piece of him and i its not alot but to us it is everything jeanne and stew
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Most of you are spewing the equivalent of racist remarks, and it makes me sad to be an American citizen. Not all people on Medicaid are poor, on welfare, or incapable of parenting. Being poor isn’t the only qualifier for Medicaid. Some states put the disabled and those on Social Security Disability on Medicaid. Another situation is unmarried couples, where you can’t share medical insurance. You could have a homemaker or stay-at-home mom who needs health insurance but isn’t eligible to be on her significant others’ insurance. Health insurance should be a RIGHT, and it is sad that America is the only industrialized nation in the world that hasn’t realized this human right yet.
You’re all just a bunch of miserable people who don’t appreciate what you have and it is downright pathetic. Maybe you should go a year without health insurance and see how scary that can be. I am sad to inhabit the same country let alone the same planet as most of you, but the good news is you can change that.
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